Nothing is loving like a shiny new Baller Wolf.
Let’s face it, getting a new Wolf that you can tolerate is like riding a bike and not falling.
Or, going to your favorite store and finding out everything is 75% off.
Even, finding a blank check on the ground and going buck wild with “0“.
Better yet, a genie with unlimited wishes…
you get the point.
But, will you be truly satisfied with one Wolf?
I have said many times in my dreams:
“Yes, Devin Thomas, I will never cheat on you EVER.
EVER. DO YOU HEAR ME BABY? EVER.“
lol…
Oh course, that dream also had me sitting on a throne and having servants at my beck and call.
I always wondered that if I got the Wolf I actually wanted, would I be really happy?
I know that we as Foxes constantly dream for this intergalactic Wolf to come sweep us off our feet.
That muthafucka will swoop in and be save us from this thing called “Loneliness“.
…and Lord knows I need that quick swoop.
But, I had to wonder, am I capable of being with one man… forever?
They say men are hunters and are never satisfied.
Look at how easy it is for Wolves to continue to hop from Hybrid to Fox to Hybrid to Fox.
After they have left us, we are left with broken hearts and used Fox tails in “Return To Sender” boxes.
But, let’s say my Baller Wolf does come into my life and tries to lock me down,
would I jump to the yes… or hesitate and keep my options open?
God has a funny sense of humor because as soon as you find the one…
… two, three, four, and five suddenly want to come into your life.
Usually they are fine and leave you wondering:
“WHERE THE HELL WAS YOU WHEN I WAS SINGLE?!”
I know that we want these Wolves to come in and be the ones who we waited a damn long time for but…
^^ Agreed, You can’t not expect to find stable sustainable love without trust. So if you have been lied to by some foxes, wolves, hybirds, jackals, hyneas, etc than its because you didn’t change your cycle up. In sociology we learn that all beings have cycles and repetitive actions, so if you notice the same behavior, tendencies, etc. RUN!!!!
Every one? But then its more about the men that you choose to be with as opposed to you being able to trust people in general.
We’ve touched on this before but can you expound upon what you’re experiences with trust have been like in your relationships?
Been lied to and cheated on by every dude I dated so its hard for me to trust people
not bad.
not bad at all.
Hehehe thanks
I think we come from two very different perspectives when it comes to dating and relationships so we’ll most likely never, ever agree. Lol I’ll admit I’m a bit cynical when it comes to love in general though. As if you haven’t noticed. lol
The quality can’t really be described though and you can’t force yourself to exemplify it. Usually most dudes already know what category you’re going in within five minutes of meeting so starting off by bragging about how good you are at fucking makes that decision easy.
But if you can’t describe it how do you know what it looks like?
I can describe it more as a “feeling”, than something you can see. I’ve had it before.
I usually get “it would be nice to have someone to chill with on the regular” and that could mean anything.
Is it fair to say you know mostly out & discreet men who are on the more beta side of things though? I know alpha men who mess around with different dudes but would consider settling down with one person if that person didn’t send mix signals, become clingy, or try to keep their attention with sex. Most submissive men tend to submit too quickly instead of projecting a certain quality that sets them apart from the millions & millions of bottoms.
They’re most likely to be successful even if they don’t necessarily fit their type huh? How do you define successful? They won’t be humiliated or they’ll be let down easily? lol
Maybe you encounter the nice ones…
I’ve found guys are reall REALLY honest online, or really really fake.
Successful as in you’re more likely to get the number and subsequent dates thereafter. We often reject ourselves because we believe we aren’t what the person is looking for before we give a person a chance to reject us. There’s no humiliation lol.
Yes, most of my friends are foxes. But from the Alphas i have come across, getting them to settle down is really difficult. “I just want friends (with benefits).” Betas on the other hand tend to pretty much have heir sights set on just getting one. When you say “send mixed signals” what does that mean? I think this is where the miscommunication or wrongfully interpreting the meaning behind behavior comes in. Perhaps an alpha’s “he’s to clingy” to a beta’s “I’m just trying to show him I’m interested.” And I’m sorry to say this but often times the best way to keep an alpha males attention is with sex. They tend to be more receptive to it than “would you be interested in going on a series of dates to try and get to know me?” So you’ll find beta males using sex as a bartering tool to try and snag an alpha. It works, in the short to medium run, but ultimately the whole situation gets delegated down to a sex thing.
“Projecting a certain quality that sets them apart” Please describe what that quality looks like? Because to me, when i hear guys say that, it sounds like you’re expecting for us to be aloof and pretend to be disinterested in you. Not answering all of your phone calls. Being “mean” and distant and pretty much try and make you work for our attention… when honestly… you don’t really have to. Car, house, job, degree are definitely not the qualities you all look for in a partner or at least they aren’t major factors. What is this major and definitely intangible quality of which many alphas speak of?
Discussing the issue in terms of fox vs. wolf makes my head hurt because I don’t see men (gay or straight) in terms of beta vs. alpha. I feel like most men in general our age isn’t trying to be tied down.
In my opinion online dating is how most men meet because a lot of men don’t go to gay clubs. So what does that say about the community in general if it exacerbates superficiality and choosing mates based on attractiveness and hoping all that other stuff comes with the package? Most dudes don’t change into different people online, and if they do they can only keep up the visage for so long.
I disagree. Most men our age who land on the more submissive side of things (if foxes and wolves aren’t for you) tend to want relationships or something steady than the more dominant among us from what I’ve experienced. The environmental of online dating i.e. a picture and a paragraph being all someone has to go on to me tends to lead towards more rigid standards of what someone is looking for. But out in the real world, typically if you’re approach is one of confidence and straight forwardness, you’re more likely to be successful even if you don’t necessarily fit their ideal type.
I would say guys are more likely to be different people online because it’s a lot easier to be yourself when no else is around. They definitely can’t keep it up for long of course.
Has his shyt together meaning what? Car, house, job, expenses taken care of? Okay.
Knows what he wants? In general or relationship-wise?
Knows how to treat a dude? Please explain this further.
Ride or die? What sort of things do you expect a fox to hold you down on?
Trust is pretty universal to making any healthy relationship work.
Knows what he wants in general…knows how to cook, fuck, etc…100% supportive of whatever im tryna do
damn Stevie….
whew… sounds like my kind of wolf…
…too bad you are so short lol
*runs out back*
Lmao I’m not short!!
^how tall are you?
*raises eyebrow*
5 11
And so far you haven’t found someone with these qualities?
I haven’t found somebody that I can TRUST
Well someone has to hold it down for us lol. I’m willing to engage with those on the other side. Plus I know i’m not the only one who feels this way. Who’s rejected countless sexual advances and wondered where the commitment oriented wolves are at or if they even exist at all.
Its definitely perceived if it doesn’t match their ACTUAL preferences. These online profiles display what these individuals want IDEALLY not necessarily what they end up with. How many perfect 10s are hitting these so-called high standard foxes up? Not very many. But they’re definitely on there entertaining the men who are. Just because these individuals state that they want something, does necessarily mean it shows in their behavior.
So if one meets their own requirements then its okay to want the best of the best? I suppose so. But I still hold on to the fact that its a lot tougher to get w olf to settle down than it is a fox. I’ve encountered countless wolves who have pretty much the same expectation “lil sexy, i just wanna fuck.” There haven’t been very many who have tossed around the title of “boyfriend” or “wifey.” I’ve stated this before but it still feels as though wolves don’t necessarily look for love and a relationship, they more so fall into it accidentally.
Well in my experience these foxes usually end up wiith someone who matches what they want on paper, but has some fatal flaw like he can’t be faithful or he has a girlfriend…or they end up solo. You’re definitely right, the perfect 10’s are not hitting high standards foxes up because they have options annd aren’t really pressed. I don’t know too many men in general who are going to entertain someone they are not interested in AT LEAST sexually.
I never said a wolf is easier to lock down than a fox, I’m simply stating that not all foxes are sitting at home yearning for the perfect dude. There are plenty of foxes that will fuck you silly and disappear and have no desire for anything other than dick. I agree with the last sentence because the wolf to fox ratio works in their favor.
The bottom line is in my opinion men are fickle by nature. The perfect person could fall from the sky and land on top of us and we find something wrong. Usually with age we learn what qualities we can live w/o and our “list” gets more to the important shit.
Of course there are plenty of fox whores out there. But I feel as though the proportion of foxes who want to be tied down is much-MUCH larger than the proportion of wolves who are looking for the.same. This idea of “lists” in my opinion should be taken less seriously because everyone has them but most don’t necessarily stick to them. Especially if one is basing most of these assumptions on what they read on dating internet sites. An environment that likely exacerbates superficiality and choosing potential mates based solely perceived attractiveness and hoping all of that “other important stuff” comes with them.
Vain you better tell them. Ever since that last post these wolves been trying to come for the fox lol really i really enjoy getting different perspectives. Keep it up Jamari
^I agree.
I respect Vain for his opinions for us Foxes.
They’re not “perceived” if they are explicitly stated, mostly on online profiles. Some are bold enough to state it to your face though, and I can respect that, IF you meet your own requirements. My trainer is a perfect example.
I don’t think any of the dudes I’ve messed with have been like that. All they wanted was sex right then and there and I would never entertain any more than that with them.
I think that’s all dudes want in general…no matter how hard they try to front
That is exactly what i mean though. Most wolves aren’t looking to get cuffed.
So what is the “right fox”? List the qualities he must possess in order for something to click in your head that you’ve met “the one” and you’d be willing to make a commitment to him?
The right fox has his shit together and knows what he wants. He knows how to treat his dude (even though i can take care of myself) and somebody that is ride or die and i can trust 100%
I believe most foxes have an IDEAL mate whom which it would be nice to settle down with. Nice car, nice paycheck, nice lifestyle. But from what I’ve come across, at least for the most part, our standards aren’t very high. We see fine men pretty much everyday who we stop and think “if he was gay and just acted right…” Not to mention the large amounts of wolves who we do come across who are like “i’m looking for No Strings Attached type-ish.” Where a lot of them drag us through ambiguous and unsatisfying situations because he’d like the benefits of being in a relationship with the ego stroke, attention, the sex, and a shoulder to lean on… without the actual effort or title or commitment or having to follow through on his words with actions to actually be in one in the mean time talking to about 5 or 6 other foxes as well.
At least for my friends, just be cute, be masculine, be consistent, and have a job. That’s about it. I don’t know which foxes you all are messing with who are telling you “if you don’t have NFL looks and NBA cash flow, you need to keep it moving”?
I don’t your friends, so I can’t speak of their standards. I can only speak on what I’ve encountered time and time again. You have to approach the dudes with shirt off, proof of gym membership in hand, ruler with your erect penis in the other hand, and your shoes better be on point. You can’t forget the brown paper bag because some dudes test that as well. Trust there’s always a reason why a goodlooking dude who seemingly has it all together is ALONE.
Are these perceived standards that you think these foxes have that more than likely are written on their online profiles?Or have these been experiences where they’ve told you that because you are not… x,y,z… that there is no way you will be given the time of day?
How do these high fox standards coincide with the type and/or amount of men that you’ve slept with/ have sexual encounters with?
There are plenty of foxes that don’t want to be cuffed either. They say they do but they walk around with their nose in the air all the while telling themselves that there’s someone out there who’s going to personify everything on their checklist.
Yea…wait on that.
I don’t think we’re asking for a lot though.
What person with ridiculously impossible standards actually admits it? All we see are the results of being that way…
Rite!!
No, i meant like in reality there aren’t very many. In theory I’m sure there are lots.
There are wolves that want to get cuffed. C’mon y’all.
The keyword is “IF” because most of them are not looking to get cuffed. Like… AT ALL.
^agreed.
I’m not looking to get cuffed but the right fox can do it
Absolutely! If I like you enough and you’re loving, caring, affectionate, respectful, monogamous, and committed I will NEVER. EVER. LEAVE. I’ve had the same friends for years and every time we’re together there’s always something new. Shyt, I’ve had the same wireless carrier since high school. I am no stranger to commitment
All i want is ONE good one. That’s it.
I think that every Wolf and Fox have a moment in their life when it is all about who you can get or not having to commit to one person because their is always something new or better around the corner that you haven’t met yet. But, as you get older the game becomes old and I think everyone will want to settle down and be a one Man Wolf/Fox.
i could b with 1 wolf. i just have to weed through all the bad ones to find my mr right wolf. S/N u ,ay have had a dream but devin still calls and we fuck on the regular :-/
^oh is he?
I have his credit card so if he doesn’t want me to go buy a plane on his tab,
you better enjoy that last dick down lol
I got my own money I just want the beef lol!!!
Sad to say but I don’t think I could be with one dude FOREVER. That would be like a kid only having one toy to play with for the rest of his life
Steven… REALLY?!?!
so you will be a bachelor for the rest of your life?
Nahhhh…I’m just going thru my YOUNG WOLF phase rite now. Eventually ill find a guy that’s worth settling down with
^the joys of being a Wolf, huh?
Lol foxes play a lotta mind games tho…so I wouldn’t call it JOY
^and Wolves don’t?
I am always surprised to hear Wolves with Fox issues.
Maybe those are Jackals Stevie lol
Foxes are perfect.
Lol you might be right about that. Wolves are perfect too if you cuff them and act right 🙂