everyone makes it seem so easy to meet a wolf.
its real interesting.
they make it seem like something is wrong with you if you can’t.
or aren’t.
shiiiiiiiit something is probably wrong with me…
maybe i’m too introverted
maybe i’m weird
maybe i’m insecure
maybe i’m shy
maybe my foxtail hangs to far to the left.
or is the right?
i don’t know.
i have never had luck meeting a wolf in public.
back when i was meeting wolves,
it was always online.
for most of us,
it starts online.
unless you are really obvious,
running in the right circles,
or don’t have “resting bitch face”,
then meeting someone in public is totally easy.
for others,
like myself,
it feels like the equivalent to chinese water torture.
look it up.
i have literally gone to a gay club and feel like an outcast.
i have felt like an outcast in this life we live.
its the truth.
no need to lie.
many of us have a “work wolf” saga.
we meet these ambiguous “straight” wolves that play with our minds.
we get lost in the fantasy.
“finally!
we get to finally be the one to tell the story!
how we met this fine ass wolf in person and he was into us.”
“yes lawd!
yes lawd!
yes father!”
its the fantasy of many.
i don’t judge.
some of us want something more masculine.
i won’t judge.
some of us want something more paid.
i won’t judge.
some of us want a legit top a.k.a wolf.
i won’t judge.
some of us don’t want to be the sex toy of the month.
i definitely won’t judge.
so i have a work wolf.
i’ve written about him a few times.
i like him.
he is my friend.
he isn’t perfect,
but he is everything i’d want in a wolf.
he has done certain things that made me say:
“wait…”
i’ve explained this before.
i’m not doing it again.
he sees me for more than just some “foxtail”.
and that’s another thing…
Are we so use to fuckin’ fast that we can’t appreciate when someone goes slow?
i’m not saying work wolf is “going slow” with me,
but in a perfect world,
what if he is?
what if any of the wolves/foxes/or hybrids just want to go slow?
is that weird to us?
i feel thats weird to most of us.
its like we respond better to “dick pics” and “ass arches” than:
“hey wassup.
how was your day?”
like my ideal conversation ain’t:
“send me a pic”
you got this expensive ass phone and that’s all you do with it?
all this free texting for 1 or 3 word texts?
seriously?
your phone is a beacon for when your bootyhole is available?
like get the entire inch of fuck out my face.
so yeah…
it ain’t easy.
this life ain’t some walk in the park.
hell if it ain’t easy for straight black vixens,
what makes you think its gonna be easy for a fox?
one who likes a certain type?
now i’m not some picky hoe,
but damn,
can’t i just want someone that turns me the fuck on?
not even on some sex shit.
just by the way he makes me feel.
i like to “feel” him inside me before i let him get inside.
if that makes any sense?
it might not.
some of us are just use to being notches on random belts throughout the forest.
i was looking at work wolf today and i told him “sorry”.
randomly.
he looked like at me confused.
i felt bad.
last night i had this “brilliant” idea to pull back from him.
this wolf likes him some me.
i like me some him.
i guess not in the way i’d like,
but i have to learn to appreciate just what is.
this “life” is just what is.
the loneliness and thirstiness is just what is.
it sucks,
but we just learn to deal.
lowkey: i want my foxhole to stop listening to blatant hoes.
the thots.
the ones who meet,
rinse,
and repeat dicks and ass.
like you can’t tell me shit about meeting and keeping someone.
and as far as i’m concerned,
if you met a “work wolf”,
he woulda smashed and left your ass.
so…
Jamari, I can relate to every word in this post. Like, you took the words right out of my mouth! I’m 27 years old and this has been my life since I reached the age where all of my peers began to date. Never any luck for me however. Everyone I’m attracted to is heterosexual. It’s not something I’m mindful of, it just always happens to work out that way. Why is it so damn difficult?
Now I never expected it to be easy, but I never expected it to be THIS hard. I mean, I’m not even THAT picky…I don’t think…? And yes, I also feel like somewhat of an outcast in the “gay scene.” I’d prefer to meet someone in public, but it seems like online has been the modern day “safe zone” for gay men to meet….and I absolutely hate it π‘. Why can’t I meet someone in Starbucks βοΈ, or Target π―, or the gym πͺ!?!? π©π©π©
Anyways, thanks for this post. It reminds me that other people are going through exactly what I have gone through as far as dating. So I guess that’s comforting in a sense… π
It can be difficult sometimes as a gay man to find what you’re looking for; even when you “have it all.” It doesn’t matter if your well spoken, educated, attractive, fit, intelligent, employed, and well kept. I know PLENTY of those guys who are the above and they’re all YET single just like those who aren’t. So when a dude who has all the qualities we are looking for comes along, we began to fantasize about what could be; even though we know deep down the dude is straight. Unavailable.
My 2 cents: I don’t get the emphasis on straight vs gay. There are plenty of women who have been dogged out by straight men just as there are as many a gay man dogged by every letter of the L.G.B.T community. I don’t think sexuality mixing guarantees any more of a better outcome than any other form of relationship.
I think the whole attractiveness of “seducing” a straight man has more to do with feeding ones ego. Plucking an attractive, masculine, educated, employed, physically fit, intelligent man from his confirmed hetero existence into our head space, into our community, our lifestyle must feed some emotional confirmation that is saying “I as a person, as a man, as a gay man have all the qualities that anyone could ever want” enough captivation to even have a straight man fall for me.
If we look beyond the ego what we really want is an attractive, masculine, educated, employed, physically fit, intelligent man who is confident with himself and recognizes that I as a person, as a man, as a gay man have all the qualities that he needs in his life and he must let me know that I am so captivating that he could not miss out on having me in his life………..and will treat me the way I deserve to be treated.
That’s what we’re really seeking and sexuality, straight nor gay guarantees you will ever find it.
Intriguing, my four transgender male to female friends say its so much easier for them to date they say they have more options but almost every guy wants to date on the low vs the life they lived as males i guess some guys assume certain people are straight and to scared to test the waters.
Dont get me started on them delusional trannies. That world is one big ass lie.
Please do get started im intrigued!
I want to hear this too. I love when people read for filth
Its really not much. Its just that for the most part their whole life is one big ass lie. I have a friend who was going down that road and he told me in detail what it was about. I also fooled around with a piece of trash who eventually became one and my cousin is one. I have a near personal knowledge of them. Lets just say on the outside it may look like they are winning but in reality they are the biggest losers.
I love this discussion! Discussions like these are needed in the black gay community!
Back in late 2013 I met this fine buff wolf at the gym. This dude had it together he was in the military, drove a nice car, body was built baby. We stared at each other for two months. One day he was in the gym with a tight sleeveless shirt on and I couldn’t take it I walked up to him and asked him how many reps he had on that machine then he told me you can workout in between me. He was very shy though, he was even blushing when I paid him compliments and flirted with him. Unfortunately, I had only seen him 3 more times after that. To be honest I beat myself up even today for not exchanging numbers with him or even talking to him for those two months we stared at each other, because deep down I knew we could of had something. I know I am an introvert and shy myself around new people and have the resting bitch face so I know this makes me unapproachable and I’m working on that. Sometimes we have to go for the wolves that we like it’s hard but sometimes that’s the way it is. Most of us who is discreet don’t have the privilege like the straights of being single today then meeting our next lover on the weekend.
^You know damn well if you step to a dude, before you even get the question out of your mouth…they think you hitting on them!! I’m like WTF?!! Sad, insecure little men. LOL
Sorry, but I’ll have to go against the grain on this one.
If you’re a self proclaimed gay man that has only been attracted to straight or emotionally unavailable or literally unavailable men you need to explore that.
No different than women who only go after married or attached men.
Even I have been attracted to different types of gay men. Yes, there are VERY attractive and tempting heterosexual men out there that are literally everything you want, except they aren’t gay!
I find that gay men react to straight and unavailable men in two ways:
They really accept the man is unavailable to them or they fall into the cycle of uncertainty and think they can push him over the fence. Then they subconsciously seek out the same kind of men and cycle continues. Meanwhile, nothing materializes.
I’ve always said even the nicest gay man will push another gay man down 20 flights of stairs to get to a straight man.
What puts things in perspective for me when dealing with other men is thinking how I am as a man, because make no mistake, we’re all men at the end of the day and we more or less show our interest, ambiguous interest, and disinterest the same way.
I know how I treat someone I’m feeling and I know if it’s apparent the other party is already into me that should make it easier to be upfront about my feelings. Meanwhile, if I’m not sure about you I might be really nice to you one day and not as nice the next day. Hell, if I’m horny I might be particularly flirtatious with someone that day.
All I’m saying is I’ve never been one to try and make something fit that just doesn’t and I’m not going to wait 6 months hoping the puzzle piece fits then because it looks like the perfect piece lol.
I was texting an old fuck buddy the other day and when he told me he was seeing someone, I said good luck and deleted any trace from him from my phone. Although he was still flirtatious he was not available to me.
Sorry for the rant…
^i agree with jay on most points,
but I also feel like what you do others may/may not.
sometimes those same “straight” men might actually be inexperienced gay/bi men.
It has happened because those are “the stories”.
True, we all were at one point.
So we know no guy is going to make us take that leap until we’re ready. Believe it or not, some closeted men never decide to go down that path.
I’m always asking for success stories where the ambiguous guy you couldn’t figure out declares his dedication to the gay man who’s been waiting on him to make a move and they live happily ever after.
10 million views on here right? (Congrats by the way!)
I want to hear a success story that deviates from both parties move on and you never even knew what it was!
^Thanks Jay!
honestly I’ve heard the stories from others.
they all seem to turn out the same.
I won’t lie to you.
there was no happily after ever,
but for somethere was a friend for life,
a simple “I was the one to turn him out”,
or they were just the pit stop to the destination.
it’s all a raffle,
but like most gay relationships,
there was no “happily ever after”.
i think we get hooked on the optimism.
we want to tell our own stories.
i have been attracted to gay men,
But they do dumb shit that turn me the fuck off.
it maybe wrong way to think/live,
but it may just work for some.
we all have different paths in life and it may lead us to disaster or a blessing.
I’ve come to realize that you can go date as much as you want,
trying to be like others,
and end up meeting the wrong guys.
it’s when you are over it and decide to do you,
sometimes a dude just strolls in your life.
hell you might die alone with your cats and birds.
life for everyone just seems like a raffle.
you ever notice that some people in high school,
who were “the ones to make it”,
end up not being shit?
that always reminds me of this life.
This is some good reading material.
So true Jay. I do not want someone if they do not want me. My mind does not even allow me to go after a man who is straight because it would be a waste of time. If he does not like men, I cannot make him. I am attracted to some straight men, but I leave it at that.
Honestly, it stems from the notion you have to fight for someone and win their love that many people in general have and that one isn’t. If you meet people in long happy relationships, they’ll tell you they didn’t have to do all that, especially not after the initial introduction phase.
They feel like if they stick it out and make them comfortable and be available 24/7 that’ll some how make them worthy and they’ll get their prize. Life rarely works that way. It’s been ppl out here been trying to prove they’re loyal for 20 years lol
I had it bad, but once I let it go, I realized I could probably tell if I would deal with you within 20 minutes of talking to you.
I’ll set you free in a heartbeat lol
I wonder if their is some type correlation between foxes liking straight wolves and vixens liking foxes in terms of attraction, which is great and all but leaves folks singing in the friend zone.
This!! I can’t help my resting bitch face. It is what it is, I think it’s my eyebrows lol. Those apps are so damn annoying. It’s the reason why I’ve abstained from sex for a year. People on there are so predictable. It’s all about finding your next nut & once you get it, you move on to the next. It’s boring. Me & you are on the same page when it comes to waiting for someone to make us feel good before actually going all the way. I actually block guys who start conversations with nudes. I don’t want to see your nasty hole or peen, like TF?
People in this community don’t value people. It’s all about sex. Some gay dudes will never talk to another gay dude unless the other guy is willing to have sex with them. I’ve had guys who stopped speaking to me because I wanted to keep everything platonic on a friendship level. Is it wrong to want to have a friend who you can relate to? I’m over it
Amen!!! Amen!!! Preach Jamari!!!
The issue isn’t that complicated. It’s all about where you look for certain type of men. I think alot of people are just looking for their type in the wrong areas.
Where do you suggest people look?
I totally get what you’re saying. I also want to add that sometime you don’t get the men you want to attract cause chile I have so much foxes hitting on me it really sucks. Most of them assume I’m a wolf because I “look” masculine, I mean I wouldn’t mind to have sex with another fox with a doubleheaded dildo, but sometime I want the real d and sweat dripping on my body from his strong chocolate muscles.
Dios mio lol
You’re not alone J. Gay dudes don’t turn me on at all. The aura of Masculinity is what we all crave. It’s something you can feel just being in their presence. It’s a man being a man…looking like a man….acting like a man. It’s something you learn from growing up with a father or other masculine brothas. It’s becoming so rare now that we are willing to lower our standards and do things we normally wouldn’t when we finally meet a masculine male.
Yes indeed. The authenticity is key. I can spot the fake a mile a way and its an instant turn off. These str8 wolves are authentic in there masculinity. They may do things to cover up their less than hetero desires but they are still 100% and unapologetically masculine.
Are u guys masculine too?
So what if all gay dudes were like you and said gay dudes don’t turn them on?
I actually respect your honesty.
I’m not knocking you for wanting a masculine man, but I find that most gay men have a skewed and shallow perception of what masculinity is.
A lot of straight men don’t grow up with fathers or brothers either and a lot of gay men do have brothers and fathers
I love this post Jamari. I have many of the same feelings. I want something and someone real, nothing random and meaningless. It’s so hard because everyone acts like they want something real but in reality they want something quick and easy. It even gets to the point where I question my looks and personality lol. Like damn. Idk how people make it seem so easy, but typically those are the ones always sleeping around lol.
Laawd. The guys i have liked have all be so called str8 wolves. I know we woulda been so good together to thats the shit that fucks me up. I know you see that you and work wolf could be the couple of the year. I just dont mix well with most of these gay wolves, i have tried. When im round the str8 ones its so organic and not forced if we could only get past that one hurdle, laawd. Jamari you makin me reminisce yeah.
So on point
Im the same way! My friends always asking why Im single etc. etc.. Im not no whore, I get easily turned off by guys in this lifestyle because they don’t know better nor had better when it comes to dating and relationships. Me and my ex- work wolf are as well taking things slowly. Im moving on his term but at the same time he’s a good friend, but I will not wait for anyone.
^im so glad im not the only one.
I was beginning to think I was an alien or something.
I was just thinking something similar to this the other day , I don’t think I’ve ever crushed on an OPENLY gay guy before. All of my crushes have being straight guys, and I think I’ve only had sex with two for sure gay guys, everyone else I have messed with has been a question mark.
It’s not only your fantasy but mine too, I would love for a guy (I find attractive) to hit me up at the grocery store or while I’m out clothes shopping. π I’ve had one guy hit me up before in public and instead of introducing himself he just handed me his phone to put my number inπππ like really nigga?
Sigh you wouldn’t be hung up on wolf wolf and I wouldn’t be hung up on my wolf friend if we had quality fine wolves blowing us up and showing the kind of friendship we have with these fellas but alas we don’t.
^i can cosign on all of this.
i usually tend to like wolves who make my foxy senses go off.
@Mikey…I have that happen to me, but I’m usually never alone!! Last time it happened I was in the supermarket with my brother. This latino dude kept following me around the store, eyeing me (my as more likely), and he even got in the cashier line next to ours and we had eye contact the whole time…smirks and all.
The kicker was when he looked back as he walked past us. In my mind I was like yes…vindication!! LOL
Lol been there, nothing like a good EYE fucking
I like to take my time to get to know a person before taking it to the next level. Sometimes you have that moment where you just want to hit it and quit it….but a lot of the times, I like the getting-to-know-you part best.
My “problem” with meeting wolves is that if they hit on me (and most of the time I’m oblivious to it) I usually brush it off, thinking they are trying to trick me into admitting I want to get with them, trying to out me in a way. I’ve missed out on many a guy because of that mentality. If I can get past that…it’s a wrap!! It’s open season!! LOL
^its funny how all of us have different experiences within our forests.
it’s like we could trade like pokemon cards,
we could power up off each other or something.
LMAO
Christian this is the story to my life.
Late to the party but that’s a major issue in my book. Not knowing whether someone I may meet in public is as discreet as I. No one wants to fuck up and get involved w some big mouthed queen.
What I’ve learned is just to look at it as “making a friend”. It takes the pressure off and allows you to get to know someone better. If they’re interested or mess w dudes it will eventually rise to the surface and then you can decide if it’s someone you want to go there with or not. I totally feel you though.
If it’s not someone I’m in close enough proximity to strike up a conversation with, I’m not going to entertain stares.
P.S. Jamari if this work dude situation is real life, you’re lowkey setting yourself up for constant disappointment I’m sorry to say. Who wants to let someone else’s actions dictate their emotions. People should meet half way, period. Not us running up behind someone hoping they have an epiphany today or tomorrow. Friend, love interest or whoever. All love though.
I get what you mean man. So know that the boat is not empty.
^too many boats in this life sadly d.