14 thoughts on “the 2020 presidential debates have me up tonight”

1. I have read the comments by Dark Phoenix and Jumanji. I am in California so I will not vote for Biden or Trump. (I don’t believe that Biden and the Democrats have done enough for blacks.) Biden will win California by millions of votes so Biden doesn’t need my vote to win California. That being said, if I were in North Carolina, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Florida or any other close or swing state, I would vote for Biden.

   Trump is a stone cold racist and his policies and judicial appointees would further turn back the clock on black progress. Biden is not perfect. In fact, he’s far from perfect, but when you are in a hole, the first step to get out of the hole is to stop digging. Another Trump administration is more digging.

   As far as blacks in politics go, we will continue to lose as long as we continue to chose to play politics stupidly. We continue to chose to play politics stupidly by focusing on photo opts and personalities instead of focusing on policies, plans and programs.

   Blacks should have had a black agenda on November 10, 2016 for potential 2020 Presidential candidates. (The 2016 election was on November 9, 2016.)

   What blacks should be doing is preparing for a Biden win by having a black agenda ready for him on November 4, 2020–the day after the last day of the election. Then we should be ready to push him on the points of the agenda–starting with the fact that blacks–and only blacks–handed him the Democratic nomination by giving him a resounding victory in the South Carolina primary. I DON’T SEE BLACKS PREPARING A NOVEMBER 4 AGENDA FOR BIDEN.

   In addition, the Congressional Black Caucus has about 55 members in the House of Representatives–with probably about 2-5 more to be added as of November 4, 2020. It takes 218 votes for a majority in the House of Representatives. The Congressional Black Caucus should let Biden and Speaker Pelosi know that the Black Agenda must come first! I DON’T SEE THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS PREPARING A BLACK AGENDA FOR BIDEN.

   But will blacks do that? No! We continue to choose to lose.

   In closing, I wish to comment that I have asked Jamari to correspond by email about steps that we can and should do as black people to bring us up from the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow and he has repeatedly refused. Jamari chooses to lose–like many blacks. And when you choose to lose, you shouldn’t be surprised that you do in fact lose. Representatives. The Congressional Black Caucus should let Biden and Speaker Pelosi know that the Black Agenda must come first! I DON’T SEE THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS PREPARING A BLACK AGENDA FOR BIDEN.

   But will blacks do that? No! We continue to chose to lose.

   In closing, I wish to comment that I have asked Jamari to correspond by email about steps that we can and should do as black people to bring us up from the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow and he has repeatedly refused. Jamari chooses to lose–like many blacks. And when you choose to lose, you shouldn’t be surprised that you do in fact lose.

   Perhaps that posting will prompt Jamari to reply to my emails–but I doubt it!

2. Like this country, last night’s debate was a shit show.

3. It appears there has been some overreaction as more recent polls are showing Biden in the lead after the first debate. Either way, I’m not voting for either of these two scumbags come election day. If I choose to vote for president, I’ll be voting third party. My main focus is at the state and local levels. There’s a Republican Senator that aligns with a couple of my views on things like protecting internet privacy and such…

   1. Biden is not perfect, but he’s obviously morally, intellectually and temperamentally far superior to Trump, a racist, incompetent, lying sociopath who doesn’t give a shit about any one of us.

      That said, what exactly makes Biden a scumbag like Trump? Also, could you kindly enlighten me on the overall strategy behind not voting (aka a vote for Donald Trump)? Thanks!

      1. “What exactly makes Biden a scumbag like Trump?”

         His track-record, beloved… Establishment Dems, like Biden and the Clintons, have advanced policies that have caused irreparable damage to the Black-American community. And instead of an apology, they insult us with snide remarks about having “hot sauce in my purse” and talking in churches and with celebs (not intellectuals like Dr. Joy DeGruy, Michelle Alexander, Cornell West, Ajamu Baraka, etc.) who are popular in our community. Biden’s one calling card is, he isn’t Trump… Yet, for voters like me, that isn’t enough… Okay, say we do get Biden in office, he has made it clear through his campaign that he is not in favor of any popular Progressive policies like the legalization of marijuana, UBI and similar “socialist” policies. In fact, the one popular policy that he is for–raising the minimum wage–he barely talks about. So, to hell with that senile old man!

         “Also, could you kindly enlighten me on the overall strategy behind not voting (aka a vote for Donald Trump)?”

         There is no strategy…it is a mere exercise of my right to not participate in an election. And as long as I have that freedom, I’m going to exercise it when/if I see fit. Also, someone not voting isn’t a vote for Trump. Like I’ve told many others, don’t tell me to vote then get mad because I’m not voting the way you see fit.

         1. Thanks for your reply, beloved. I respect your right to abstain from voting and I hope you’ll respect my right to challenge your position. IMHO, a “no vote” IS a vote for Trump. Refer to the 2016 election. Allowing Trump to get re-elected (i.e. no vote) will neither allow for ANY progressive policy to be enacted nor rectify the bad policies from decades-past that establishment Dems espoused. I’d rather needle and pressure Biden to make smaller steps toward progressive policy, than go backwards with Trump.

            That aside, there are more immediate concerns to consider. Besides being a damn liar, moron, alleged rapist, tax dodger, etc., Trump has purposely botched the pandemic response, caused a recession, stoked racial tensions, encouraged voter intimidation and is now claiming he won’t respect the valid results of the election. I could go on and on about how all of this has and will continue to damage the black community, but at this point there’s no need. Donald Trump has got to go, and the only way to do that is to VOTE.

4. All I have to say is Trump refused to condemn white supremacist and told them to “stand by” so if you’re any race especially black and are undecided and not voting FUCK YOU!!!

5. There were no winners in this debate; only one loser: America. The continued embarrassment on the global stage is mind numbing. I’ve already voted; early voted and personally casted my vote at the polls in my precinct. I’m numb to the fact of either candidate winning and I fill sorry for Biden having to inherit this current environment. Without control of the congressional houses it will be a likely useless Tbh. Regardless of the outcome in November or hell in 2021 sometime after every vote has been counted, scrutinized and recounted America will have to face the dark reality that Trump is never ever going away until he takes his last breath. He was able to be tear back the bandages and reveal the ugly scars of our society that have existed all along but were masked by generations of not addressing the problems full on instead of this assimilationist-let’s all just get along bullshit. “ There were no winners in this debate; only one loser: America. The continued embarrassment on the global stage is mind numbing. I’ve already voted; early voted and personally casted my vote at the polls in my precinct. I’m numb to the fact of either candidate winning and I fill sorry for Biden having to inherit this current environment. Without control of the congressional houses it will be a likely useless Tbh. Regardless of the outcome in November or hell in 2021 sometime after every vote has been counted, scrutinized and recounted America will have to face the dark reality that Trump is never ever going away until he takes his last breath. He was able to be tear back the bandages and reveal the ugly scars of our society that have existed all along but were masked by generations of not addressing the problems full on instead of this assimilationist-let’s all just get along bullshit. “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: … A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.”

6. I think Joe Biden did well given the circumstances. It’s just really hard to effectively debate someone who is as unhinged as Trump. You saw that even Chris Wallace had a hard time keeping Drumpf in check. I actually like the fact that Biden kept it meek and mild when Trump started ranting and raving like the idiot he is. This is a presidential debate, not some trashy reality TV show.

   I respect your opinion, Jamari, but I wholeheartedly disagree that Joe Biden is not fit to lead. If you do a deep dive into the facts, you’ll realize that Biden is light years ahead of Trump. I think it would be really dangerous to even entertain the idea that Biden and Trump could be two sides of the same coin. That line of thinking is part of how we got Trump in the first place.

7. 😂😂😂😂

8. Dont look at it just from one side. It may seem like his base is the only ones that going to bat for their candidate but just know there are ppl on both sides fed up with this man. Remember there are less supporters on his side than Democrats. The key is turnout. That’s why voter suppression and many other tried and basic tactics is used. My greatest concern over this election is that he tries something crazy. This man has to go! We dont need to see anymore to see just who he is. agent orange is a threat to this country. To get on there and dog whistle to their supporter to “stand by” is disgusting. If this man goes unchecked he will bring this country to ruin. I look on the positive side of things but in this hour the ppl need to understand this country is falling. And was the clown debating the moderator or Joe. Show up and show out ppl the future depends on it! I’m seriously thinking about leaving this country if things hit the fan. It’s time to come together and pray for us and this nation.

9. We’re in trouble if he wins—-but also if he doesn’t win.

   I will say this—-November will be the worse month of the year for our country. Prepare yourself now.

10. I disagree Trump is shit and performed as a piece of Shit. Biden did what he could under the circumstances.. No one under the circumstances have been able to do do any better. That was Frump’s plasn to disrupt, maske noise, distract so the public couldnt hear what was being said. I give Biden credit because had it been me.. I woulf hsve told thst MF to shut his effing mouth n keep it shut. Trump just turned people off n made the people say enough of this freaking lunatic..The e Orange MF told the racis t terrorist group to stand back n standby for for if he doesnt win. I had 3 text tonight from London, Gibraltar n The Phillipines watching it live asking how the Eff we elected that madman..they pity us.

    1. This country is on the decline and some refuse to see it. Just be prepared come these months ahead.

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