would you take leadership from jamie foxx?
what about will smith and kanye west?
well jamie wants to step up to the plate since no one else is.
check his speech at the lincoln memorial
honoring martin luther king’s “i have a dream” own speech…
alright jamie.
i like when he gets all aggressive and shit.
such a turn on.
i agree with him tho.
i always wonder where are our leaders?
who stands up for us when something goes down?
where is 2013’s mlk?
malcolm x?
angela davis?
*crickets*
lets hope they can get the ball moving!
i was very impressed at kanye’s vma performance.
the backdrop with the tree was where the slaves were hanged.
hence “blood on the leaves”.
this is the kanye i love!
lowkey: before we can even move as a people,
we need to stop this crab in the barrel shit.
change has to start within us first.
Dean …I hate black people so I fuck Africans the blacker the better
Magical Negroes cannot be civil rights leaders.
What is Baggar Vance and Django gonna tell someone about liberation and freedom? .
Yeezus can’t tell me a damn thing, he’s a Gemini. Enough said. Talking about he hates the paparazzi, but you knock up Kimmy Kakes, the world’s most famous fame-whore? Stay pulling stunts and shows. George Bush isn’t the only one who hates Black (and poor) people.
Everybody who looks just like you isn’t for you. Black people don’t need to stick together. People of a good conscience need to band together to combat these sociopaths.
Too many soul-less wonders trying to flex. Shooting teenagers and joggers, beating old vets to death, making demonic music, images, and films. Fuck em, fuck em all, every last one of them.
These men leaders? This is laughable as hell. LMAO…
Kanye West doesn’t care about black people. If he did, he’d make a black baby. But no, he’s infatuated with white chicks–witness his baby mamma, Kim Kardashian. Action speaks louder than words.
And while we’re at it, Jamie Foxx has two children–both by white women. Action speaks louder than words.
Case closed!
So do you feel the same way about actor and civil rights activist Harry Belafonte who married two White women? BTW he also had kids with his Second Wife who is White.What about Sidney Poitier married to White woman and had kids with her.Both men marched with Dr King
Of course. Love is love and self-hate is self-hate. African Americans (the descendants of African enslaved and brought to America) suffer from PTSD or PTSS–Post Traumatic Slavery Disorder or Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome. (There is a large list and a complex of symptoms and some symptoms cause or aggravate other symptoms.) That’s what you get when you strip a people for 250 of their histories, names, cultures and heritages and subject them to chattel slavery and then subject them to Jim Crow for another 100 years. Give me a break. The problems in African American culture go back to slavery and Jim Crow and guess who imposed slavery and Jim Crow? Who taught African Amercians to use the N word? Who gave African Americans a slave mentality? Who gave African Americans a slave mentality, which is perpetuated generation after generation and which negative influences spread like a virus/disease? Who has denied African Americans jobs? (The best social program is a job!) Who has built and perpetuated a racially discriminatory penal-industrial complex which is tilted at every level–from arrest, to booking, to sentencing, to probation and parole–against African Americans? Who denied African Americans the nurturing and protective (as individuals and as a group) influences of their histories, cultures, languages, names and heritages?
Why is it that African Americans largely hold as negative our skin, our lips, our noses and our hair and talk of “good hair” and make fun of dark complexions and strong/natural/nappy hair and fry and dye their hair unnatural colors like blonde, orange and red? (Witness Michael Jackson who famously said that “It don’t matter if you’re black or white.” What bunk! It must have mattered to him because he did everything possible to have white and not black hair, skin, lips and nose and he was successful in not having black children.) What do you expect if you do that to a people for 350 years? I expect a mess. And that’s what you have and now it’s time to blame the victim
So you believe every Black person involved in an interacial relationship doesn’t care about Black people and are experiencing self hate? All these men mentioned have also had Black wives or girlfriends.Harry and Sidney both had children with their Black wives.So did they hate being Black when they were married to Black woman? If so then do most or all Black people have self hate? If so then none of us care about Black people regardless of the color of our mates, since we all hate ourselves.Is that what you are saying?
^that is really interesting you say that dean.
i often felt these men get wrapped up in white women because they secretly was attracted to them from jump.
as soon as they become “someone”,
and those same people who wouldn’t look at you twice want to suck your dick now,
they get with them and end up getting them pregnant.
just my view on it.
I think there are many guys like that but there are just as many guys who happen to fall in love with a woman who is not Black.Or who happen to fall in love with or be attracted to Black and none Black women.Self hate doesn’t always equal dating or marrying White.Dating White doesn’t always mean you hate your Blackness was my point.If we use that criteria than one could say dating a light skin Black person or not dating a Dark Skin person means you hate being Black.
This is what Y Collette said “So you believe every Black person involved in an interacial relationship doesn’t care about Black people and are experiencing self hate? All these men mentioned have also had Black wives or girlfriends.Harry and Sidney both had children with their Black wives.So did they hate being Black when they were married to Black woman? If so then do most or all Black people have self hate? If so then none of us care about Black people regardless of the color of our mates, since we all hate ourselves.Is that what you are saying?” I said “Love is love and self-hate is self-hate.” Not all black persons who date /marry other than black do so primarily or solely due to self-hate–but many do is my point!
For many who they love is greatly influenced by self-hate. They want a man/woman with stringy/straight hair. They want a light-skinned person and see that as more attractive than a darked skinned person. I met one black man who told me that any woman he dates has to have some “pink” skin in her. He was color struck and he engaged in self-hate–yes!
Fox Vander Woodson, when a black man gets a big sports contract, he can afford the best house, the best car, the best wine and what goes with that is the best woman. Of course, his self hate tell him that such a woman doesn’t look like his mother, sister or aunt. Such a woman is not dark skinned with a broad nose, full lips and nappy/coiled/strong hair. Such a woman is light-skinned, has a pointy nose, stringy/straight hair and thin lips. This racism (pushing European standards of beauty) is pushed morning, noon and night all over the USA. In TV, in music videos (note that the desirable women are almost always light, bright and nearly white or white or mixed or mulatto but the less than desirable women are usually dark complected or black–and these are music videos by black artists), in books, billboards, etc. the European standard of beauty is pushed and swallowed by many black people. (Please Google “the doll test by Dr.Kenneth Clark” and you will see that such standards of self-hate are bought whole hog by many black children in America–boys and girls early–by the ages of 3-6!)
So, yes love is love and self-hatred is self-hatred and who one loves is often a function of self-hatred and internalized racism.
By the way, here’s something that I wrote on a related subject recently:
African Americans (the descendants of African enslaved and brought to America) suffer from PTSD or PTSS–Post Traumatic Slavery Disorder or Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome. (There is a large list and a complex of symptoms and some symptoms cause or aggravate other symptoms.) That’s what you get when you strip a people for 250 of their histories, names, cultures and heritages and subject them to chattel slavery and then subject them to Jim Crow for another 100 years. Give me a break. The problems in African American culture go back to slavery and Jim Crow and guess who imposed slavery and Jim Crow? Who taught African Amercians to use the N word? Who gave African Americans a slave mentality? Who gave African Americans a slave mentality, which is perpetuated generation after generation and which negative influences spread like a virus/disease? Who has denied African Americans jobs? (The best social program is a job!) Who has built and perpetuated a racially discriminatory penal-industrial complex which is tilted at every level–from arrest, to booking, to sentencing, to probation and parole–against African Americans? Who denied African Americans the nurturing and protective (as individuals and as a group) influences of their histories, cultures, languages, names and heritages? Why is it that African Americans largely hold as negative our skin, our lips, our noses and our hair and talk of “good hair” and make fun of dark complexions and strong/natural/nappy hair and fry and dye their hair unnatural colors like blonde, orange and red? (Witness Michael Jackson who famously said that “It don’t matter if you’re black or white.” What bunk! It must have mattered to him because he did everything possible to have white and not black hair, skin, lips and nose and he was successful in not having black children.) What do you expect if you do that to a people for 350 years? I expect a mess. And that’s what you have and now it’s time to blame the victim. And, by the way, I say “African Americans” because black people who come to America from the African Continent and from the Caribbean do better than African Americans who have been here for generations because they don’t have the burdensome legacy of slavery and they have the protective influences of their histories, cultures, languages and traditions. And, by the way, black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean do better than other Americans too. For all other Americans–American Indians, Nigerian Americans, Irish Americans, Greek Americans, etc. coming to America has been a liberating experience and they immigrated to America. African Americans did not immigrate to America. They were imported to America and coming to America was an enslaving–not a liberating–experience. How soon we forget and perhaps not even learn! Who devised the “Southern Strategy” to make African Americans the political whipping boys of the country. Who carried out that “Southern Strategy” for decades—and some say still follow it? (And how about those Voter ID laws?) Who instituted “cointelpro” which purpose was to discredit, destroy, kill or jail legitimate African American political and social leaders who were not engaging in illegal acts and therefore which aim was to hobble African American leadership, communities and people? (Please Google “cointelpro”) Who sent Martin Luther King, Jr. a note to commit suicide, which purpose was to destroy legitimate African American leadership and therefore communities and people? Who instituted the “Tuskegee Experiment”? Try to itemize the list of racist, heinous and harmful things done to African Americans, which things have had their foreseeable and predictable effects. Who did these things? Not African Americans! Accordingly, trace the genesis of problems that African Americans have and “all roads” lead to slavery and Jim Crow! Don’t blame the victim!
(And, by the way, the same or similar can be stated of Afro-Latinos [and for this purpose let’s include Brazil as a “Latino” country] in countries like Brazil, Cuba, Peru, Venezuela, Columbia, etc. The descendants of Africans that were enslaved and brought to those countries are at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder and have suffered and continue to suffer—similar to African Americans. PTSS is not peculiar to African Americans. It is the natural human reaction to centuries of degradation and abuse in the USA and South of the border–here and there. Again, persons of African descent who come here from Africa and the Caribbean do better than African Americans who have been here for generations. And, by the way, they also so better than other ethnic/racial groups. What’s the difference—centuries of degradation and abuse.)
PTSS is but a diagnosis. What is the cure? PTSS is caused by slavery and Jim Crow striping a people of their history, cultures names, languages and heritages. An African value is that the young should honor and respect elders and that elders should nurture and protect the young. PTSS is the result of a people being striped of their history, cultures, names, languages and heritages for 250 years of slavery and another 100 years of Jim Crow without the nurturing and protective influences of history, cultures, names, languages and heritages whereby they continued to be terrorized and mistreated as second or perhaps 3rd, 4th of 5th class citizens. So the cure is to reverse what happened in Slavery and Jim Crow. Learning their histories, cultures, names, langueages and heritages. Stop using the N word. Stop adopting European standards of beauty. Stop adopting what white people do as the standard. Stop dying hair blonde, orange, red and other unnatural colors. Stop wearing weaves. Etc.
If you’re not a part of the solution, then you’re part of the problem. The Hippocratic Oath is “First, do no harm.” So we have the cure: Be a part of the solution and not a part of the problem and do no harm. Few behaviors or actions are neutral. They ether help toward a goal or they work against the goal. The song said it well, “Accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative.” A few things: Don’t use the N word and call out and chastise those who do. Get it removed from music and music videos. Don’t use terms such as “good hair.” Don’t excuse such poor behavior. Strive to eliminate it in you and in others that you touch. Strive for excellence and the highest standards of achievement! Seek common ground with other people who will pledge to behave positively. Don’t say or do such things as “I used a black [doctor, lawyer, carpenter, etc.] and he wasn’t any good so I’ll never use another black [doctor, lawyer, carpenter, etc.] again. That’s negative, particularly when black people will use a white or other [doctor, lawyer, carpenter, etc] and if dissatisfied will go on to the next white or other [doctor, lawyer, carpenter, etc]. Black people are signified by their dark skin, broad noses, full lips and strong hair. Don’t use negative terms to refer to such characteristics. Don’t put light skin, pointy noses, thin lips or stringy hair above black features. Each one teach one. Each one reach one. Open your eyes to the facts of PTSS, including wearing of weaves, dying hair orange, red, blonde and platinum—all unnatural colors for blacks but natural for whites. Realize that love is love but that many blacks are so enthralled with white beauty (which they make the standard) that they in their slave mentality (a symptom of PTSS) are “naturally” drawn to white women and men (with, for example, blonde hair and blue or “light” eyes) and that they are “naturally” repulsed by “ugly” or “lesser” black women and men with their dark skin, strong hair, broad nose and full lips. Understand much of that as a form of self-hatred and self-loathing. Instead of going to Europe for your vacation where you have no cousins, go to Africa. And go to West and Southwest Africa where the ancestors to African Slaves come from—as far North as Senegal and as far South as Angola—so that you will get in-touch with your ancestors and your culture and your identity as an African American. (Many African Americans make their overseas trips to Europe just like their white co-workers and neighbors but they have ancestors in Europe. And what makes African Americans African Americans is their ancestors and current relatives—cousins—in Africa.) Understand poor behavior that reeks of mental slavery—but don’t excuse it! And don’t blame the victim.
We must understand that such behavior is both a symptom of PTSS and a cause of PTSS. Such behaviors, attitudes and actions are contagious like the most dangerous of viruses. And they are spread person to person and generation to generation.
Are you familiar with the “the doll experiment by Dr. Kenneth Clark”. If not, Google it and articles associated with it. The doll test/experiment was done after the year 2000 and the results are the same. There is a great amount of self-hate and self-loathing among African Americans and this seeps into children from societal cues in TV, radio, music videos, parents and even comments with the N word, etc. As is bent the twig so grows the mighty oak. Parody/ridicule: Yes, children are to blame because they didn’t chose the right parents!
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The first step in solving a problem is realizing that you have a problem. PTSS is a problem. African Americans didn’t cause it, but are 100% responsible for curing it because it hurts them. PTSS is a diagnosis. The cure is to reverse the process that produced it, unfortunately you can see if a person has a broken or missing leg but you cannot see a if a person has a broken mind, spirit, culture, etc. And it is very hard to repair a those things because many people don’t know that they are “ill”.
For example, many African Americans would deny that they are “ill” and insists on using the N word. Many African American women insist on dying their hair orange, blonde, etc. Many African Americans talk of “good hair”, etc. They are “ill” and spread the “disease” of PTSS but they would and do deny that they are ill or that they spread anything negative. They have broken minds but they–like an alcoholic or drug addict—refuse to do much to be cured! And such behavior is part of the disease process!
2 DL men and 1 queen. Just what Black America needs leading us. How great.
…history tends to repeat itself.
KANYE lost all credibility knocking up that attention whoriin hobag!!
I can deal with Jamie and Will. How about no Hollywood celebs try to attempt this?
nigga….no.
^why no zen?
expound?
I don’t feel like they’re doing it out of the goodness of their heart.It doesn’t seem genuine to me.It seems they just like titles, civil rights leaders they are not.
MLK and Malcolm X were out there marching, inspiring hope in the community, standing up for us in a time when we were deemed non-human and told we weren’t allowed certain places.
How impacting would Martin Luther’s “I Have A Dream” speech be if he released as a statement and not delivered/spoke it himself live in front of hundreds.These celebrities thinking they really stand for a cause just because they speak out against it.No, you have to do something about it.If you really cared, then it wouldn’t be a problem, because you feel strongly about it.You’re being honest.I feel these 3 are doing it for image and title only.Just one more term on their resume to stroke their egos and make them feel good about themselves, as if they’re really bringing about change in the world or trying to.
I feel the same way about Lady Gaga’s song “Born This Way.”It didn’t strike the right cord with me.She was literally to literal in that song.Martin’s speech was honest.He wanted us all to be treated equally and to be judged individually by our personalities.He presented that perfectly because it was how he genuinely felt.Most celebrities, like these 3, seem to just want to hop on the bandwagon because it makes them look good in front of the masses.
“Look at me, I care about the underdogs, aren’t I so progressive, Goddamn I’m so great.”
The only believable Civil Rights Activist celebrity to me was Tupac Shakur.I could tell he genuinely meant all the things he said.He’d say it in a dead serious tone as well.I know he meant business.His problem was being ensnared by his words and getting high too much.But he was a young man so it’s forgivable.Had he still been alive today, I feel like Tupac would be on his game.He was all about progressing black people and speaking up about the injustices against us.
I’d definitely get behind Tupac on some new Black Panther Party type-ish.