Let’s be real Foxes out there….
If you have been reading my site, more than likely, you know how straight Wolves make you feel.
Their swag, their body language, and the dominance – makes you feel weak in the knees.
I get so weak in the knees I can hardly speak.
I lose all control and something takes over me.
In a daze, your love’s so amazing, it’s not a phase.
I want you to stay with me, by my side…
I hate meeting a Wolf thru a Fox/Wolf and find out the obvious.
From jump, his swag was already appealing and of course it was because he was straight.
Makes you feel like you will never meet a Wolf in this lifestyle who is like that.
But, a ton of Foxes think they can turn out a straight Wolf.
They are up for the challenge and whenever they say it, I usually scratch my head in confusion.
Is it possible?
I can honestly say that it is highly impossible to turn out a straight Wolf UNLESS he was already curious from jump.
When a Wolf has gotten himself knee deep in some pussy, it is kind of hard to resist more of it.
That juicy tight splashy box they have grown accustomed to diggin’ out.
It is in his genetics to want more pussy.
How can he just go from one extreme (pussy) and then to another (booty)?
(this excludes DL Wolves)
So the argument on turning out 100% straight Wolves has been put to rest.
…or has it?
I remember talking to a D/L Thug Wolf who was trying to get at me heavy.
His swag was just how I like it: dominant, swag, and gotdamn fine.
During a conversation late one night, I asked him when he started fuckin’ with dudes.
He told me he is forced into it by accident.
Again, confused.
He tells me how he fell asleep at his boy’s crib and when he woke up,
dude has his dick in his mouth and was giving him the mean slob.
So, he was “turned out” by what he was feeling and liked it.
I have heard the same story from other Wolves also.
Either they were turned out in that fashion or were molested at a young age.
SIDEBAR
I could NEVER do that.
First off, I am scared of rejection.
Secondly, that is OD bold.
Third, I want the Wolf but I’m not tryna die for it.
Although, I did feel up on my straight friend’s cakes when he was sleep at my crib one time.
I was like 16 and he has the nicest tail ever.
I always wanted to grab it and I went for it.
I’ll tell that story LATER.
I have also overheard queens bragging that they have done this to unsuspecting dudes.
My first instinct if I was in that situation would have been to punch him dead in his eye.
But, since they did not punch this queen in his mouth (furthermore be at his house alone),
where these dude’s already curious and this just helped with their curiosity?
When it comes to turning out the so called “straight” Wolf…
Well I’m there are other other successful, masculine wolves out there. Many are working professionals who may be found at LGBT networking events geared towards our demographics. They may be at certain clubs (one’s i assume you don’t frequent). They are out there though.
I get the attraction to straight men. They have the masculinity and swag we like in men and they often aren’t into all this stupid shit that most gay/bi guys are on…sometimes. However, I think guys who constantly chase straight guys and try to “turn them out” are kind of …desperate and pathetic. Now if a “straight” guy happens to seem infatuated with you that’s different, but understand he won’t really see you as a serious romantic option in most cases.
I believe there are people who can attract both, even if one gender doesn’t acknowledge it. Attraction is just that though, doesn’t mean anything will come of it.
So all you gay/bi guys who dream of one day getting some fine ass straight boy to fall in love and “wife” you, get over it! The shit isn’t realistic. Even if it did happen you’d be his sideline, his intriguing sex toy that he uses and throws to the side until he’s bored again. That’s all.
Now dont be so negative but at the same time, i understand fully and agree with what you mean. I just feel like these men need to appreciate the good supply of gay men that we already have. A lot of times when you think u have seen every man and there are no men out there, you havent. We all just live in one city at one time full time. Even if you travel, you never know who or what is out there. Youve got to really seek and explore and live many places if u want to see more. It makes sense..expand your hunting range if u wanna bring more carcass home.
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HELLO!!!!!!!!! I completely agree. You can suck them and fuck them all you want but I think it’s a waste of time to pursue romantic relationships with straight men. They’re very intriguing and nice to look at and talk to, but at the end of the day he will always view you as some sort of toy or chemistry set to experiment with. There are too many masculine wolves for us to choose from that we often don’t give the time of day.
I agree that you can’t pursue something romantic with a fully straight wolf,
But from what I see in NY: either the Wolf look dusty as hell, thinks he is on some pedestal because everyone wants him, an escort or a stripper, been used up, or is a user looking for a home-for-dick.
This is a very interesting discussion.
It is interesting I see both sides to all arguments.
One argument I can say, “well this has happened to me” and another side, “I can see where this is is happening”.
I will add that every Wolf and Fox has the same experiences so what may look like “absurd” could actually not be for another. This is what makes us all so different and able to grow and try new experiences from our stories.
Keep it up fellas!
I’m confused. Are we talking just sleeping with them… or somehow extracting a committed relationship out of someone who identifies themselves as straight?
The latter dear.
So this is interesting cause I believe tit is really simple – it has more to do with comfort level and trust than sexuality. “Straight” dudes do some of the gayest things when they are comfortable with each other and think nothing of it; not saying all out sex but physical contact and levels of interaction.
I believe and have experienced that the line cross comes with the level of trust. I’ve had dudes sexually and know for a fact that I’ve been and still am the only dude that they have been with. We are friends., I didn’t coax anyone into, I’m not out and in one case it wasn’t even in my plan or on the radar kind of just happened, so definitely believe that the sexual interaction between two “Straight” males can happen base on level of comfort and trust.
I do think it is harder if a guy is trying to manipulate it out of someone else because then at that point you are pulling for something that the person may not naturally be wanting to give so in the end you are setting yourself up for failure. In addition, due to my large and varied social circle, I have heard of all types of scenarios, the curious guy who did it because he wanted to know if it was better, the DL guy who did it because he always wanted too, and also the straight guy who has done it with one other guy (me) and never did it with any other dude and doesn’t attempt to though he could get it happily from mostly any dude.
I think instead of attempting to gauge whether someone is gay or straight just be a friend and a descent person and if it is meant to go down it will.
so i have to correct something in my entry:
“I can honestly say that it is highly impossible to turn out a straight Wolf UNLESS he was already curious (OR CURIOUS ABOUT YOU) from jump.”
Yes that’s gona b a good topic!!
you can try to turn a str8 wolf out but all you would get is heart break and denial. 1, the most thing he gona want is head and rough sex which arnt bad things but thats all you are to him somthing he can fuck easyly. 2, your probably thinking once youve had sex hes gona sweep you off your feet and have a happy ever after ending. but in the real world he will see you on the street and wont say a word to you thats if hes with his boys or his pet fish. and 3, be ready to hear “i was high/drunk and didnt know what i was doing. usualy the str8 wolves have a strong enough rep to pull people to his side and make it seem like you tricked him. or when confronted by his pet fish he will deni deni deni and then you got a crazy fish after yo ass trying to put you on blast. so the best thing is to follow the eye fucking looking but no touching rule with str8 sexy wolves… unles the are curious Jamari you need a segment on them
i was just gettin the “curious wolf” entry ready for a new entry omg!
Like della said, it’s a double standard. A woman can be fluid in her sexuality, but a man can’t. If you have sex with men, you’re gay. Bisexuals get it from all sides. Lesbians don;t like bi women cuz they think they’ll leave them for a man, while bi men get flack from gay men & straight women.
I think people are a lot more fluid then they let on…especially if you’re receiving. A dude will get head — and sometimes smash — and not think he’s ‘gay.’ I’ve met a few of them — especially since I don’t fit the ‘flaming queen’ stereotype, so they’re first open to the idea that you don’t have to be fem to like men…then it’s a little more push to that curiosity (if it’s in them). But those guys aren’t for me; moreso if I was a fox.
In any case, it can be done, but what’s the point? Another notch on your headboard? *shrug*
“Men in general judge more from appearances than from reality. All men have eyes, but few have the gift of penetration.” – Machiavelli
Can someone straight really bend with the right amount of pressure? Nope. They are not bending, they are doing what’s natural.
The population (using USA this is about 307 million people) consists of 1% heteros (3 million people) and 1% homos (3 million people), and the rest, 98% of the population (301 million people) has some degree of bisexuality whether they are biologically male, female, or intersexed. Most societies promote an exclusive narrowed version of heterosexuality so it appears that more people are straight when on average we are surrounded by bisexuals.
I’ll have more on this later, but I will add–touching on sex, or sexual acts exclusively–that it is not always the case about leaving one extreme (women/pussy) to another extreme (men/booty); a lot of “straight” guys want to be dicked down (gutted, LOL) themselves and not necessarily by other masculine men.
YEA MACHIAVELLLI!!!
trannies these days are doing a ton of the gutting LOL
but i agree, men can also be as bisexual as women.
men think that gay is: some feminine queen who will out them or some brolic man who will basically rape you.
…. until they meet the low key discreet gay dude who for some reason, charms them by doing nothing but walking into the room.
he could be dressed really well, handsome, making everyone around him feeling good by observation – and that may entice him.
you always want to be around someone who can make you feel good.
then, that is when the curiosity for YOU starts….
There’s a possibility that you can get a straight man to have sex with you. It’ll probably be a lot easier to get him to allow you to put your mouth on his penis. It won’t be so much about who you are as much as it would be what you can do for him. And ego stroke, a shoulder to lean on, perhaps some like night attention. But a romantic relationship? I personally wouldn’t spend my time trying to get a man who prefers to be with women to try and be with me. I don’t have the energy to try and change his mind. Plus, i will always fear he will wake up one day, look me in the eyes and say “I want a wife and kids.”
that is my only issue.
having this amazing adventure with this straight wolf and then BOOM,
he goes to church or gets some kind of revelation and breaks my heart.
this is why i believe i controlling the situation so you end up putting the “spell” on him and not the other way around.
It is an odd topic, but one full of a lot of disbelief in ourselves. Case in point, all but one of my friends are female and they range anywhere from 20s-late 50s and some of them have gotten divorced, or had babbies with a sorry baby daddy, and have had girlfriends for some time…..or just stopped men completely and never looked back.
The thing is, it is never questioned in women. I have not once ever heard anyone ask them why they were suddenly gay or had a girlfriend. Most of us just accept that women are very fluid with their sexuality and can date a women then go right back to men. If i had a nickel seriously for every girl I know that was supposed to be gay, then fucked a man and had a baby, and not they are gay again.
Its like a rollercoaster for a lot of them, but one we accept. I have heard many women talk about not necessarily liking women before that, but being captivated by THE RIGHT woman. What I mean is they dont necessarily like women, they just like HER.
So I dont see why we as gays do not accept that if we spend enough time around someone and treat them right and get to know them that perhaps their heart may change…….or perhaps they dont like men necessarily as much as they like YOU. YOU ARE THE ONE….not me in general.
We dont accept it from men. Its just like women can go back to men and a man will have them and most of them not care that they used to date women or be turned on by it and not give a fuck…..BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT if a man ever reveals he once dated a man, NO WOMAN WILL DATE HIM….he is automatically gay and thats the end of it. There is no white space or room to go back for him….he is GAY… THE END.
Many men are treated this way by women. So Honestly, maybe we dont believe we can turn out a completely straight wolf, maybe we do….but the point is…we do not accept the fact that something of that nature could happen to us but always happens to our female counterparts. So maybe we really just dont believe in ourselves or the power of love…….. Many will not agree with what I have said, but I know what I have said about females is true. Thats practically all I have EVER hung around and still do. And how many of you can deny the appeal of a man lovin and liking YOU, but not necessarily men? Like they dont think every man that walks by is cute….but they know that they LOVE you. I think its something worth thinking about.
one film that demonstrates this is called SHELTER…if any of u have seen it, you know that the friend fell in love with the older brother, but when he was asked about other guys, he didnt like them and didnt think of them like that…..but he knew he loved the brother that he fell in love with.
Honestly, i just dont wanna do all the work…i think if it happens, it should happen naturally and not be a mission ….not unless u love a challenge…then knock yourself out.
CORRECTIONS…SORRY I WAS FAT FINGERING THE KEYBOARD WHEN I TYPED THIS.
“The thing is, it is never questioned in women. I have not once ever heard anyone ask them why they were suddenly gay or had a girlfriend. Most of us just accept that women are very fluid with their sexuality and can date a women then go right back to men. If i had a nickel seriously for every girl I know that was supposed to be gay, then fucked a man and had a baby, and NOW** they are gay again”
“So I dont see why we as gays do not accept that if we spend enough time around someone and treat them right and get to know them that perhaps their heart may change…….or perhaps they dont like men necessarily as much as they like YOU. YOU ARE THE ONE….not MEN** in general.”
this hit the nail on what i was feeling.
this may sound crazy but i have always felt that i have the power to attract men, as i do with women, who are even straight. i have had females drawn to me just because of who i am, how charismatic i am, how i dress, and how attractive they say i am. i had a female i work with tell me that some of the dudes think i am very handsome, but they are straight men. i never thought anything of it but took it as a compliment and moved on. these same guys, the way they look at me and act with me is not how they would with their straight counterparts. it was… different. like they would probably try to beat if the situation was right.
i have always felt that it took a certain kind of spirit to do that. i have had dudes say things to me that were so sketchy, i would sit there and be confused. but then, i learned he was either married, dating some woman, or a ho. maybe i just sparked his curiosity with how i carried myself.
the point is, i truly believe that men can also feel the same around a man. he could be straight, mysterious, good looking, or whatever…. but i always felt that certain men can posses that “power” that women do. i like to think of them as being unisex – they appeal to both sexes but its something that could be be explained.
thoughts?
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“So I dont see why we as gays do not accept that if we spend enough time around someone and treat them right and get to know them that perhaps their heart may change…….or perhaps they dont like men necessarily as much as they like YOU. YOU ARE THE ONE….not MEN** in general.”
Wow!!!!!!!!!!! Now I feel like I was in Church after reading that…..Wow!!!!
Im glad you do because its true. As evident with some comments below, we already tell each other there is no way it could happen, he only gon want you for sex, youre nothing to him beyond a quick fuck. THAT IS WRONG!
WE SHOULD BE ACTIVELY PROMOTING THE INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCE AND D I V E R S I T Y so we can combat stigmas and these notions that we are not good enough. Recently on another Jamari post, members still in the closet felt as if they were being thrown trash at because they are different. When really I believe they miss the point that they do not have to be gay saviors…..but it would help if instead of telling us how different they are and how they are not like us, they become visible so they can combat the stigma and show case just by being themselves that there is D I V E R S I T Y among us and there is a demographic for men like them. Instead, more men are not coming out and feeling like they cant because the first thing people look for is those like them and when they turn their nose up and think the only ones like them are closeted, they are going to stay that way and continue to turn their noses up at the rest, instead of standing alongside the others representing their piece of the pie. Its not about being a savior or martin luther king of gays, its about starting the change at home by just being yourself. Everyone knows that people are SEERS to believe and if they can not see it, they do not believe its there. Thats why people are suckers for scandals today…we do not want to hear rep weiner was sending pics of his weiner…we wanna see THE DAMN DICK!