WOLVES.
IT IS YOUR TURN!
If you were talking to a dude online for a few weeks,
he had no pictures up and was really private,
but you decided to take one for the team and meet him one afternoon…
and he looked like this….
…what would you do with him on the first meet?
and do you think he would be feelin’ you?
Honesty gets you 10 points.
Ok, I must confess: Cakes are a weakness of mine. If he had decent cakes, we’d smash. But in da low.
Speaking of cakes: any recommended workouts to boost mine? Summer is here and I’m going for the high and tight look. 😉 Please send info to [email protected]
Lol “high and tight”
damn balls are in the bottoms court now lol. Thanks Jamari.
Well shit. I was gon comment, but damn. lol good work guys!
Jamari… why hath i still not seen the post i suggested about 4 posts ago? gonna need that stat!
working on it!
LOL but there’s no contact info if you want to judge. how the bottoms supposed to send the pics to y’all?
send em to [email protected] …
i’ll put them up and the Wolves can judge.
just a thought.
If y’all wanna send me pics of your cakes, Jay & I will get together & tell you what we think…lol
YES! Tough job but we’re up for the challenge! The winner should be featured on the site. lol
This has been such an insightful convo! Thanks guys!
However, what vibe do you wolves give off that makes one know for certain (well at least a 70% chance) that you’re interested? This is because men have such a range of looks, its exhausting tryna figure them out.
I ask this because most of the foxes i know are usually well put together and most times have a certain swag/style that would sometimes draw male attention to themselves, so my question is-how do I know a guy isn’t just giving a perfunctory look acknowledging said swag but is actually putting out an indication of interest in me??
Also, about the cakes issue, is it really a complete turn off if the cakes are not huge??
If a dude glances at you & keeps it moving, then I would guess he’s not interested. For me, it’s the repeated glances & looks in your direction. It might be me moving slowly into your space; finding something to talk to you about – and keeping the convo going (beyond a ‘sup.’); stuff like that. It’s repeated attention.
And just have some cakes – can be big, can be high & tight, a little bubble for your size…but I can’t mess with a longback (that’s when it’s flat from your shoulders to your legs). I GOTS to have something to grab.
What if he just looks, glances, but doesn’t speak?
Foxes got to do all the work these days
Shy? Really? Interesting. Perhaps most wolves are (although i don’t see why)? So us foxes are left to have a staring contest waiting for them to take the dominant role when they’re too nervous to do so. ::takes nots:: How like are you to do the first two (staring and smiling)… compared to that last one (starting conversation)? And when you do do the occasional glance & smirk… what are you expecting the person you’re interested to do as a result?
as much shit as i talk on here,
i am very shy in person so i do not approach or even think of it UNLESS there is an opening…
my biggest fear is to be wrong.
Hmmmm? Interesting
Dead Jamari Fox,
Best. Post. Ever.
Love,
UrSoVain.
Dear***
thanks Vain!
Man, Jay done said it all – didn’t leave me much lol. I agree, that just because you have cakes, doesn’t mean you have to show them off. Big cakes wouldn’t turn me off anymore than small(er) ones. All things being equal, a guy who knows how to dress sharp (a nice suit or a fitted slacks & shirt) is a bigger turn on than dude in the saggin shorts & wife-beater; cuz not everyone knows how to do the former. It shows me there’s more to you than the physical. It’s a lot harder for you to move from a sex object to friend/buddy/lover than the opposite.
We can flirt & ish, but if if you’re giving me the goods off break, it’s not likely gonna go any further — and some people are cool with that. If you’re not, though, then don’t be that dude. And like Jay, if you can stimulate my mind, I’ll be into you even if you’re not my ‘type’ (hate that word).
I find most dudes are too scared to ‘holla’ despite w/e we have one… at least in public anyway. How does one make it easier for someone to approach? Do i have to wear a sign like… “ITS OKAY! i DON’T BITE AND I RESPOND TO QUESTIONS POSITIVELY!”.. cuz i have a permanent marker and a piece of cardboard right here. lol
Or is it still that i have to approach you?
I think it depends on the personality. I’m a shy guy by nature; though I will f*ck u up in the bedroom (in a good way), I don’t do a whole lot of approaching — it’s just not in me. I’m not ‘wolf dominant’ in all areas. Heck, I like to just hangout, cuddle, and watch TV or a movie in the crib (hopefully that won’t destroy my rep lol).
So I say all that to say it depends. You have to read the person’s body language. I might not come up and ask you out, but I may glance at you often – hold eye contact – smile discreetly – or just ask you about something random to strike a convo…give you an opening and see how you respond
“If the general population can’t ‘spook’ you, but there’s enough there that us in the know can pick up on? I’ll holla.”
“Cuz when we hug, my hands will likely travel south”
I STAND BY THESE TWO STATEMENTS. THAT IS ALL.
Highly insightful…
Right!
thank you for your honest answer.
^THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you, because guess what?
as much as we love them – aarylia, the big boi on xtube, and others all do the sex route.
of course it never lasts either… lol
Well those two (who are a alot more popular than i thought apparently) may not be trying to develop a serious relationship out of what they’re doing but i get what you’re saying lol. Its still my perception that at the same time, as we look down upon those skanks sleeping with anyone who gives them enough attention, those of us being all exclusive… wading waist deep in Lake Hardtogetsome… still aren’t getting any further. But then again… we’re reminded to be ourselves and in corporate patients with meant to be and not looking for it but making sure we’re putting ourselves in positions to find it… or… for it to find us.
I mean of course there are color struck dudes who are only into blatinos, but there’s nothing like a dark skinned dude with a nice, clear complexion.
As far as bottoms, no I have never grown attached because they tend to seduce me with sex instead of something more. Or they will start off on the right track getting to know each other on a deeper level and out of no where they’ll give in to sex or want me to send them nude pics.
I did become attached to a verse though. I was SO into him and I never even seen his face for the first year or so. We talked on BGC, then texted real hard. He was just so easy to talk to, non-judgemental, and funny as hell. When I finally saw him in person he was not what I’d typically be attracted to but he had me on lock mentally to the point it didn’t matter.
^this
well i’m pretty sexual but i admit, i use to use sexual seduction first.
of course, that got me no where.
now that i am looking for more, i leave the sex talk on my site.
i try to keep it out of texts and all that because when a wolf turns you on,
you do not want to stop.
but you are saying you like cakes jay,
but i notice most foxes walking around with their ass showing,
doesn’t it ultimately just lead to sex?
Just because you have cakes does not mean you have to show them off. They are only an hinder you if you rely on them solely to seduce men.
I don’t like guys who dress to show off their ass at all. I can spot some nice cakes a mile away on a guy wearing compression shorts over their underwear, basketball shorts over the compression shorts, and jeans over the basketball shorts. I’m a beast with it.
I feel even if I do approach you or Vain for example because I saw ya’ll bend over earlier you shouldn’t feel objectified. You still have that window of time to show me “Yea I know my ass is nice, but it’s only a part of the whole package”. But if you decide to play on your nice ass you are officially a sex object to me..nothing more.
It took a year to get to that point? Interesting (i dont know if i would have waited that long lol). I suppose that constitutes as “being friends first” before getting into a relationship which lays the ground for a solid foundation from which to build on.
I think bottoms tend to lean more on sex rather than personality because they feel as though if they don’t, you won’t stay around. They feel as though you’re pulling away so they do the quick thing to get you attention back… sex… and it works (for a short time anyway). And i would venture to guess that thats absolutely been the case 90% of the time. I don’t blame bottoms for doing it. Early on, no one really tells you that you can’t sex a man into being with you. Or that most men aren’t looking for a relationship in the first place. That its kind of something that they just…’fall into’.
He did try to invite me over at 3 am a week or two into talking to “chill”. I declined. Best decision ever! I would’ve killed that connection before it even started.
You know what I respected most about him? He NEVER asked to see pics of me. What I looked like was not a requirement for whether or not he would talk to me. You’re right a lot of dudes would’ve moved on, but because he didn’t he got the REAL me. No lies, no exaggeration at all. Now he can tell me how I would respond to certain situations.
Umm, duh! lol
Speaking personally, if you like dudes, there’s only so much ‘uber-masculine’ you can be…fox, wolf, in between. That DOES NOT mean you’re a woman, though. That’s where I make a distinction. All this ‘hey girl,’ ‘miss thang,’ ‘she,’ etc. is a big turn-off for me. I think I’ve said it before, but if I want to be with a woman, I’ll get with (wait for it) a WOMAN. I hate hyper/uber all around — whether it’s a fem queen, a butch dyke, or some DL dude or thug rapper. It all feels overdone to me – trying to meet some perceived goal. Just be you. If the general population can’t ‘spook’ you, but there’s enough there that us in the know can pick up on? I’ll holla.
And as far as cakes? I’m a wolf, man, you gotta have something for me to work with lol! If I’m interested in you, I’m gonna eventually wanna fugg you, so…you gotta have something for me to grab. Cuz when we hug, my hands will likely travel south 😉
I have no color preference (briefly dated a White dude & Asian), nor height or age; now I prefer you to be +- 5 yrs from me & be in decent shape – no one is perfect, I got my stuff to tone up. But while your body can get me in bed, your mind will keep me there. If we can’t do anything beyond sex, then what’s the point?
well wait wolfie and jay,
what if the fox is perfect… but his cakes are big, that is a deal breaker for you?
You mean his cakes aren’t big? We’ll just have to get him on some squats & lunges stat! I’ll even spring for the gym membership and go with him.
jus date and see where it goes
I appreciate the honesty! I tend to find that because I have so much going on back there that it draws negative attention and men who just wanna feel. I figured because its so big, I’m moreso objectified than my less cakey-er counterparts. What about skin color? Do you feel wolves like yourself tend to have a preference?
Oh I like them in all shades. Golden arches to dark brown. I wouldn’t classify myself as a full wolf, I’ve just had more experience with foxes than wolves.
Wow Vain you must have a lot going on back there. Being objectified isn’t that bad. I mean a guy can’t like your personality from across the room. I can tell you from my experience, if you know you have an ass that stops traffic make it seem unattainable, like they can’t have it. Don’t even flirt until the relationship develops more mentally because if most guys think like me, once I know I can have that ass I’m not really into the person that owns it if I haven’t developed an attachment to them.
Well you seem to be on the more wolf side of things. That whole perspective is almost a complete mystery to me so anything helps honestly. And its nice to know that skin tone isn’t a factor to you. Being dark skin, I often feel that it is.
You’re right, you cant see personality from across the room. Playing hard-to-get is often the way to do things, i hear you on that that. You can get a guy to chase you, that’s easy. But more and more it seems like if u aren’t giving it up immediately, they just move on to the next. Have you ever found yourself to grow attach to someone you’ve found attractive? What about them contributed to that aside from cakes and cuteness?
Ooooh he’s looks sensual. Definitely worth a sample..lol
You see what I mean? These types always have model pics on FB, and they always come with cakes and they know how to use them too. Dude will have me picking him up a McGriddle from McDonald’s in the morning..lol!
Lol, and i don’t think ur joking either about that McGriddle.
So how important are cake sizes as a deciding factor? Does it influence exactly what your goal in the pursuit of them is?
Not at all. If I get you a McGriddle you’re a keeper. If I give you a bite of mine we have to be soulmates. McGriddles are sacred. lol
I can’t lie if a dude doesn’t have cakes of a decent size there a 99.9% chance I won’t be attracted to him at all no matter how cute. Cake size doesn’t determine my intentions though, but it may determine how aggressively I pursue.
When I see a dude I like, in my head I think “I have to find a way to get to know him so I can at least have the honor of grabbing those cakes!” Doesn’t mean I’m just interest in him for sex because he’s attractive to me.
I’d definitely have to see where his head is first. If he’s one of conceited types I probably wouldn’t have anything but lustful intentions, especially if he’s got an ass (Vain, can you confirm or deny this? lol). If he’s a good person and NOT EXTRA maybe more will develop…MAYBE.
In my first post. I was just saying he’s not the typical guy I go for, but I do have a guilty pleasure for his type.
Confirm or deny?
http://i51.tinypic.com/2zftnro.jpg
Looks pretty decent to me lol
Dayum, he’s nice! I definitely wouldn’t kick him out of my bed 🙂
I.
WANT.
HIM.
wrap him up and i’ll take him to go.
Hol up – he’s not gonna be able to please us both…well, he might be able to…
We’ll each just have to take turns…lol
So that myth about the Fox need to be uber masculine is just…. A myth?
Let it loose my Wolves. This discussion is really good.
AND ALL THE LURKERS COME OUT AND PLAY! Make a anonymous name and share an opinion!
I think its more of a matter of wolves not verbalizing what they want correctly. You don’t have to be hyper-masc, you just can’t forget you’re a man period. I can’t get with dudes who wear makeup, with overdone eyebrows and tight clothes. That’s not attractive to me. Some guys like it though.
I’ll just be blunt and say it though out/discreet/pretty boy/clockable foxes fuck better than DL bottoms in my experience. They’re less inhibited because they’re more comfortable with themselves.
I personally think if you observe any gay/bi guy close enough, you’ll find some less the masculine qualities somewhere, whether its in their mannerisms, something in their bathroom, or a song in their Ipod.
Well, the last guy I messed with that looked like that (low-key fem) went sex –> dating/relationship –> falling out –> FwB (friends w/benefits)
However, since I’m not really in the dating/realationship headspace, I’d go for FwB — and I’d be upfront about it to save any possible hurt feelings (unlike last time lol). Jay is right, they can throw down behind closed doors 😉
S’alright, it’s a cute ho azz 😉
I’m not talking about clockable as in eyebrows arched to the heavens and mac makeup on. I mean it in the sense they may be mistaken for pretty boys, but are a little too pretty and polished to the point they make some suspicious ppl wonder.
I think I’m attracted to their confidence and the fact their comfortable with themselves. Not to be crass, but their usually better in bed. lol
I think Jay and I like the same types of dudes! ^5 to a fellow wolf; it’s been lonely in here by myself lol
I love these answers Wolfie and Jay 😉
So let me pick both of your brains…
How far would you pursue something with him? Sex? A relationship? Or stay just friends?
He looks a little too pretty for me in this pic, though I’m also low-key attracted to slightly fem boys (*reminisces for a moment*); as to why – I guess they bring out the protective side I often use w/vixens…*shrug*
I’d see how the convo goes, we may be able to chill…I wouldn’t smash off break, though. But those lips…mmmhmmm
He’s good looking and Vain is probably right about him being gorgeous in person, but he’s a little to polished for my taste. I’m more attracted to guys who could take me in a fight if need be, wolf or fox.
Nice eyes though!
Lol, well its possible. But I’m interested to see some more responses from these wolves.
i am too.
this is why i love these questions.
shows the dynamics between what wolves like and do not like.
Actually, i know who that is (ATL resident) lol… and he’s masculine and GORGEOUS in person.
tell him jamari says….”i want you all over me”
hehe
#waitaminute… this is suppose to be a WOLF question
and here goes my ho ass flirtin.
>:-(
smh thanks vain!
Lol anytime. Emailed you with a bit more details…
I saw….
And I want to conquer!!!
“step outside the box”
i see the wolves are already starting out with the comedy.
LOLOL
so you wouldn’t even low key smash sam?
I’m not out so I would run for da hills. He is sweeter than a basket of Georgia peaches.
I damn near spit out my drink on the keyboard. You sir owe me a bottle of Dasani! lmao!
I’d chill with him though. Clockable dudes are kind of a guilty pleasure of mine. Not to be crass, but I’d probably smash. He looks like he can get it in!
What is it about “clockable dudes” that appeals to you?